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1) Your suggestions for a starting line of common ground is not wrong. But one point may be slightly off. It’s not clear that a majority of registered voters voted for Trump — only that a majority of voters who turned out. Whether that is important is probably the subject of another piece, but there is a difference.

2) Many of your suggestions are not new ones and at some levels have been tried. They might still find success. But in many cases, the reason why they have not moved forward is not because of the intellectual validity of the argument or lack of proper messaging. Sometimes — and increasingly often in the conservative/MAGA sphere — it’s because of sheer power — the power to say no and the power to be able to sit through protests and PR-centered pressure. Any resolution has to also factor that reality….

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Agree completely and thoroughly. I'm simply processing what happened last night in as level-headed a manner as possible, and trying to find some light in the darkness. Thanks for your note.

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Wow, this is a "dum" string of words put together into, well, whatever it is.

Before I hit unsubscribe, just wanted to let you know it has no logic and is simply a sad reactionary note to a thug getting some power. Have some principles man. Have something other than rolling over on your belly.

I'm not sure why this steaming pile and you ended up in my inbox, perhaps it's because we are both fundraisers. Maybe because we are both white dudes. Who knows. Who cares. But man, it was a terrible piece of writing.

Please don't send any more.

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Qualifying something as “insanely stupid” isn’t constructive at all. What I was trying to communicate in the post is that so many Democratic positions have been so powerfully weaponized by the right, including and especially our approach to southern border integrity, that we should consider leaning into closing the border (while we work towards a solution for asylum seekers and those already here legally)

If you think that’s insanely stupid, fine. Your feedback is noted.

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Thanks for your perspective, Rick. It sounds like you're pretty upset, so please feel free to unsubscribe. But if this is how you treat people you don't know and have never met, maybe look in the mirror and ask yourself why that is.

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Nov 8·edited Nov 8

You're welcome.

No, I'm not upset, but thanks for the jump to judge.

When you list a step in a list of calls to action or whatever that was, of anything, anywhere, that suggests "close the southern border immediately" you deserve feedback -- to your public words strung together where feedback like mine is solicited. As what you are suggesting is both really stupid, really naive, really expensive, really impossible, and morally bankrupt.

Further, as an adult, maybe take a day after a pretty major event where there are two (or more sides) -- even if you loved the outcome -- to let it sink in before you offer input. And, maybe try and be a tiny bit human in that input and advice and your positioning.

Also, as a business person, you might hold off on offering public opinions like that altogether (that is unless you only work with one type of person.)

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I guess I interpreted you asking, "how this steaming pile and you ended up in my inbox," as you being upset. If that's inaccurate, that's my fault. I appreciate you taking the time to offer feedback and if you would like a slightly better "take" on what happened this week, I encourage you to read Ben Rhodes's essay in the Times today: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/opinion/republicans-democrats-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YU4.Rfxs.bhlaQJaMEstN&smid=url-share

But also, I am still sort of surprised that you haven't commented on anything in the post. Instead, you've resorted to commenting only on me: calling my writing "dum", criticizing the timing of my post (maybe take a day....to let it sink in....), I should be a "tiny bit human", and then questioning how I operate my business (hold off on offering public opinions...).

I did not invite your opinion on any of those topics. But I have dedicated my life and career to fundraising and philanthropy and run a successful fundraising consultancy, Rootstock Philanthropy. To support our industry, I founded and manage a 112K+ member LinkedIn Group that aims to improve the work-life of philanthropy professionals (https://philanthropy.network). I am an involved dad and supportive husband.

So again, if this is how you engage with people you don't know and have never met, maybe look in the mirror and ask yourself why that is, Rick Bates.

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So, nothing back on your "close the southern border immediately"?

You just throw insanely stupid posts out there, and when folks hit that reply button (so yes, you are 'inviting my opion') -- and let you know what they think -- you just try the 'look at the bright shiny object in the corner'?

NYT column my ass. Answer for your words or stop putting them out there next to a reply button.

I am proud for you for being a good dad. That's vital.

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